1 year ago. If we assume our hero is 6ft tall then that blade looks to be closer to 8ft long and given it’s thicknesses and whatnot would weigh in closer to 10lbs than not. 2. Quality weapon that is sufficient as a 40 DEX weapon as well. Vita_Aeterna 4 years ago #2. Fantastic rundown of all the greatswords. A community dedicated to everything about Dark Souls 3. Technically UGS’s(or CGS forgot about them for a moment) are the next step up from greatswords so they don’t need that much more damage to bridge that gap. You can do some really interesting tricks with the unlocked WA R2 that can catch some people off guard; plus, the hyper armor on that move specifically is very powerful. Press J to jump to the feed. What build are you? ZonaMaster. At this low level it's tough to decide which one to upgrade with my limited material availability. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Does astora have the same moveset and skill as the Zwei? WA Moonlight Vortex provides a ton of poise and damage in a burst. Check the infusion results prior to commiting to the infusion and compare damage because it probably comes down to preinfusion scaling of each weapon and how that reflects with your build. So it's primarily a STR/FTH build with a good balance of HP, FP and Stamina. In a controlled 1v1 pvp environment, it's sort of a one trick pony, but much more applicable in other situations. It’s a more invested weapon having such high requirements, very heavy, and typically more all-in. Magic Damage itself isn't really as useful in PvE as it was in the previous games, but the damage output is still generally good. Weird R2s, the 2h R2 is not as useful as the 1h. I've been using the Claymore so far and I've found it to be very good, but I've just picked up the Astora Greatsword and I'm wondering if I am better off using that one instead, but I don't want to waste Titanite upgrading it if it won't hold up against the Claymore. This depends heavily on your build and preference. Has a combo involving R1->WA. Yeah I know the BKS is a Greatsword. After using the Claymore that is! Gael's: Numerous applications of the WA, Blade of Peril, that require a dexterous degree of control on the WA R2 (Thrust stake). That’s the one I typically use. That sword is way too big. Every move is useful on this weapon, but R1 spamming is pretty satisfying with it too. Once you check with the appropriate infusion you should see the damage for both go up and the Astoria SHOULD have a bit of a lead. The WA adds Fire damage rather than Dark damage. Haven't tried the Zwei though, how is it compared to Claymore? In the past I’ve used pretty much all of the straight swords, UGSs, and a lot of the halberds, but I’ve never really given Greatswords any love. Close. that doesnt really answer my question, I have never even used it before, thats why am kinda asking lol, really? I like the BKS, the Executioners, Hollowslayer and Wolfknight. A community dedicated to everything about Dark Souls 3. Astoras gs is very thin, might be made of a lighter metal too. It deals decent damage and staggers too. R1 WA combo. Bastard Sword: Range is noticeably lacking, damage is decent with STR I think. That being said Greatswords are still really good. Flamberge: Stance R2 deals Slash damage, deals 185% damage instead of 134% like every other Greatsword Stance R2; 185% is as high of a damage multiplier as a Stomp, ignoring latent AR differences. Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America). The beams aren’t fantastic but can be good for wake ups and harassing. Press J to jump to the feed. Can apply respectable pressure with the light beam, and the delayed Lorian's Flame can throw off people's timing. Thrust R2s. Hollowslayer is good, Gael’s is good, Greatsword of judgement is good, and BKS is good. Just curious since I was running around grinding and killed that ugly ass tree. Dark infusion only has an AR difference of 43 so the AR gap is never huge. All rights reserved. Flamberge: Stance R2 deals Slash damage, deals 185% damage instead of 134% like every other Greatsword Stance R2; 185% is as high of a damage multiplier as a Stomp, ignoring latent AR differences. The Zwei has those pokes which I love. WA R1 has good mindgame potential when used following up regular attacks, Quality alternative to the Claymore (which is more popular on elemental builds these days). Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. It’s best for a 40/40 int/fth pyro build tho imo. Anyone upgraded it and used it? Obviously, the Claymore has a blade of 90% dark matter... Why do you think it has so much phantom range? Wolf Knight Greatsword: WAs boost poise by a decent amount, but they're so telegraphed that you need to outsmart your opponent to use them when they've already committed to an action. Thrust R2s and long reach. As someone who just started getting into playing with Greatsword, I appreciate it! Gael's GS has combo potential which can be nasty if used by someone who has a high skill level. The sword is on a corpse in front of a big tombstone, guarded by a kneeling Reanimated Corpse. Shouldnt the astora greatsword deal more damage? I've got 2 Dark swords and switch between them depending on the area. Zwei is beast in pvp. #1. User Info: Vita_Aeterna. Just curious since I was running around grinding and killed that ugly ass tree. PvE bonus against Abyssals (+20%), includes a couple of bosses unlike the Hollowslayer, and generally very useful in the Ringed City. Astora GS vs Claymore. Astora typically isn’t used for its high damage but for the moveset, light weight, and hyper armor. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. #7 User Info: th3warr1or. Aside from looks, there is basically no reason to use an Ultra Greatsword instead of a normal Greatsword, especially one as good and versatile as the Claymore. It's honestly hard to rank them because each plays differently, but the Hollowslayer is probably the best. Black knight sword imo. Claymore: Thrust R2 on both handedness. Why are both not infused? Basically since i got it and i'm about halfway through cathedral of the deep now. The moveset isn’t bad given it’s R2 is pretty good but overall I would consider it and Astoras comparable given the pros and cons. The claymore is a great weapon, but I believe it's more of a quality build (40str + 40 dex) weapon or with a heavy gem. Still consumes much stamina so dunno. People will see it coming and will either keep away until it wears off/outspace, or if you're predictable in coming in, doing the WA and then attacking you can be parried. So, are ultra greatswords (especially Astora's greatsword) good in PvE, or are they too slow to use? But from what everyone is saying I’m really giving that Claymore a try! Take my updoot. Astora Greatsword or Claymore? Gael’s probably beats it in damage, but shield piercing is an important trait. Plus it's got shorter range than say the claymore, and correct me if I'm wrong but it has no pokes, iirc. Technically there hollow < > Showing 1-8 of 8 comments . Unlike the Moonlight, the split between physical and magic damage is relatively equal. You can use it on any build you want, its lightweight, have the best moveset on any greatsword. User Info: BoltJamison. Refined AGS is a monster on quality builds and crystal is good for intelligence melee builds, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I've never seen a situation where no in fusion was the most damaging choice among all infusions. Make sure to pick one u can imbue with blessed infusion if u pumped fth? User Info: PeaceForGallia. So I'm playing my first playthrough as a cosplay of my D&D character, a holy knight using a greatsword and casting miracles. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I generally advise using the astora weapon art to poise trade when there is little risk of being married. Aside from looks, there is basically no reason to use an Ultra Greatsword instead of a normal Greatsword, especially one as good and versatile as the Claymore. well crap lol, it does extra damage against hollows and why are you using raw claymore it cuts off ur scaling but both are really good but i prefer claymore cus good ol times in ds1, it gives me like 207 attack compared to everything else which is 167.